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Paul Doucette

6:54 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

How do you feel about this?
Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States ."

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David Pacheco

8:10 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

This should be passed, it should have been a law ages ago. It should be for all govenrment employees & elected officals.

Mark Cain

9:00 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

I would like to now more about the 1/32 part Indian lie that the media seemed to bury as quick as possible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2FGuYgtlY&feature=related

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David Nolta

9:27 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

No Mark, you are keeping it alive! Though it's no scandal as far as I can see. Her family always believed themselves to have this heritage. Nobody has made a convincing argument, much less proved, that she was deliberately lying, or, if she was, that she benefitted by the lie, etc.. But if you don't want to move on, you don't have to.

Matthew Keefe

10:02 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

@David - While I don't agree with perpetuating a myth or falsity I do see a great issue with not coming out on the record once and for all and state why she took funds based on the "thought" she might be an Indian. Imagine if students in school to get grants and scholarships just started lying or conveniently forgetting?

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Chris L.

10:17 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

@David How can you say she hasn't benefited? If it's not important, then why did she go through the extra effort to identify herself as Native American throughout her career? She's already a woman, so she was already in one "protected group", so why bother going the extra mile?

Whether or not she is or isn't Native American isn't that big of a deal. Its the denial that identifying in that way helped her, and its the continued willful denial that she did anything wrong.

It speaks to the credibility of a candidate. If you are going to "be" something, own up to it, and don't deny that it has helped you reach levels in your career that would have otherwise been closed to you.

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David Nolta

10:30 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Again, Chris, you seem to be missing one or two links in your argument. HOW did she benefit? Was she claiming something she did NOT believe? And one of your statements ("She's already a woman, so she was already in one 'protected group'") betrays your own complete lack of partiality...

Mark Cain

10:17 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Dave,
"Her family always believed themselves to have this heritage."
I have no idea what her family thought, All I know is what she has said and she is a politician.

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Theresa

10:17 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Liberals and especially power hungry Progressives, certainly feel free, to create falsehoods, dressed up as reality. Making it up as they go along, to benefit themselves and those of the same ideology.

The TRUTH is not to be believed, because of a convincing argument but because the TRUTH conforms to reality.

Certain cultures and minorities surround us, using the exact same methodology, of bending reality, to yield lies as truth. Spinning a web of fabrications for personal or professional gain, would appear to some, those who deal with reality for the proof of facts, not unicorns and rainbows, as an act of manipulation and deceit, thus unworthy to be in a position of power granted from and paid for by the taxpaying legal citizens of the United States of America.

The truth has been proven by conservative bloggers, the Boston Herald, the Boston Globe, Native Americans, records and documents keep by the state of Oklahoma and U.S. census' dating back 100 years.

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David Nolta

10:36 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Theresa (keeper of the TRUTH??), we've talked about this before. When you and others on this site insist on stereotyping whole groups ("Liberals and especially power hungry Progressives" "certain cultures and minorities"), you undermine your own arguments, and do a disservice to yourself and your readers.

David Nolta

10:26 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Matthew, I agree with your feeling, but as I said, I have yet to see any evidence that Elizabeth Warren "took funds". Please, if you have a credible link to a respectable news source that has made and backed up that claim, you will completely convince me.

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John J Brown III

4:46 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

@David, she gained employment based partly on her claim of being native American, that is how she "took funds". Are you having a hard time seeing the forest through the trees? And please don't add that "employers never inquired about my heritage.", they COULDN'T it is against the law.

Chris L.

11:25 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012

How did she NOT benefit, David? I don't need to provide links. She makes $700K from Harvard University. The evidence that she HAS benefited is already there!

So tell me...if she hadn't "self-identified", would we even be having this conversation? Would anyone outside of her hometown have ever heard of her?

I can't tell you for certain...but I can tell you that she has attained fairly lofty status in her profession. She has self-identified as something she might not be. (My parents told me when I was growing up that I could become an astronaut or President, and while both could still technically happen, them telling me that doesn't make it so...) The burden to prove that she HASN'T benefited from her falsehood rests on her.

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Dan Quigley

9:53 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Harvard has said without waivering that they did not hire her based on her heritage. Plus, ask a Harvard student - Warren was a highly regarded and sought after prof. One cannot ride a portion of heritage to the top of Harvard. She got to where she was being smart and hard working. I am more in the line of thinking that people unconsciously fear powerful women and so convince themselves that a non-issue focus is the best course for dialogue.

David Nolta

12:31 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Again, Chris, for the record--I NEVER said (despite your earlier accusation) that Elizabeth Warren never benefitted--I said that I have yet to see any proof that she deliberately misled people, or that she benefitted. And you are correct--you don't need to provide links--but some impartial documentation would certainly help YOUR arguments. As far as your latest--are you suggesting (again without any back-up) that Elizabeth Warren's career, her $700,000 salary, her "lofty status", were all somehow dependent on her belief/claim/lie/mistake that she had Cherokee ancestors? Because you really might want to back that up. I myself would love to see Ms. Warren on that great show with Professor Gates, about finding your roots. Los of surprises on that one. Though for me, the whole issue of ancestry seems a bit ... how shall I put it? ... less important, really, and especially with regard to the way living people--including, of course, politicians--behave NOW.

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Proud Resident of Northborough

12:40 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

I have two issues with Professor Warren.

1) The obvious lack of candor in dealing with her “Native American heritage”. She has continually stonewalled on this issue. She went many weeks, refusing to answer reporter’s questions. Why? Why not release her employment applications and clear this up for good? Her lack of willingness to produce documentation that could clear this up is highly suspect and brings her overall credibility into question.
2) Professor Warren has continually stressed that she is sympathetic to students, and the loans they accrue while in school. How does she reconcile this with the outrageous salary she is pulling down from Harvard?

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Michael

1:22 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Don't forget about her interest free loan from Harvard.

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Dan Quigley

9:54 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

The campaign has been trying to talk about ISSUES this whole time. She has been avoiding the issue because she has said what the truth is and people don't want to listen. It's just like Obama with the birth certificate: politics loves the change the subject, and this race should be about where you stand ideologically with Warren or Brown because that's what will be relevant when one of them is in office.

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run75441

11:24 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Proud:

This is minor stuff for you guys to be batting around. While you are discussing whether she is native American or not, there are far more and serious issues in the economy today. Quite frankly, why not read or listen to some of her past reports and studies such as "The Coming Collapse of The Middle Class" and judge Dr. Warren on this and by her stance while acting head of the new consumer divison and also the challenges she made to the Treasury and Fed. When no one else was doing anything, she at least opened her mouth. What was Mr. Brown doing then?

Speaking of a lack of candor, most of us are not holding our breathe waiting for Mitt to release more tax records and answer more questions about his off shoring of profits. Here is a gentleman who believes he hit a triple since he finds himself on 3rd base. Mitt is not his father's son in this regard.

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run75441

9:52 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Proud:

A continuation.

Why is it that Mr. Brown feels he has to sign the Norquist pledge in order to represent his constituency? Is his allegiance to you as a resident or to Norquist. Why did Brown feel compelled to block the freeze on student loan rates? Has anyone asked Senator Brown whether he is a part of ALEC (Koch Brothers)? Why is it Senator Brown feels the need to protect those people making greater than $500,000 (including Dr. Elizabeth Warren' salary) per year from federal tax increases when they would be used to fund the freezing student loan rates? Instead he agreed to raise taxes on the Pension Guaranty Program which backs up private company pensions and placing further stress on companies who are attempting to maintain pensions.

Proud, you really need to dig into the issues more.

Andrea Dunne Adrian

1:22 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Honestly not trying to pick a fight, but curious... if you are "proud", why wouldn't you use your real name? I'm trying to figure out why people don't. It seems like it is because they can say things they wouldn't normally say!?!

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UglyHat

1:45 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Hi Andrea,

I know you didn’t ask me, and this may sound impolite. I don’t mean it that way. I’m just giving you my two cents…

I don’t use my real name because I don’t think you need to know.

Do you introduce yourself to everyone you have something to say to in public? If someone cuts in line at the theater do you tell them your name before you tell them to get lost? If you’re standing in a crowd, looking at a rainbow do you make sure everyone knows who you are?

Why do you care what our names are?

Peg

1:22 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

This woman is a hypocrite and a pathological liar who has no experience politically. She's an embarrassment to the party.

"Im part Native American because Mommy told me so and I have high cheekbones." "I was the first woman in the country to breast feed ehile taking the bar exam." Yet she refuses to answer any questions to back up her stories. If you're going to run for the US Senate you better have all your i's dotted and t's crossed before you start making up fables.

"People are losing their homes" (Liawatha bought homes in OK for low fees, evicted the owners and turned around and sold them for major profits). "Kids can't afford college tuition anymore" (Lyin Lizzie makes $350K with rent free housing at Hahhhhhhhvad teaching one or two classes a week and wonders why kids can't afford tuition costs?). She owns a multi-million dollar home, yet she claims she's one of us? BS.

What a fool this woman is, as is anyone who votes for this Nobama puppet.

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David Nolta

7:19 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Jeesh, Peg, you've got a funny name for everybody...

OBAMA 2012!!!!

Theresa

4:46 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

David, I respect your intellect greatly, by refraining to use the word 'racist', in your comments to my posts.

I pledge my allegiance to God, and my King is Jesus Christ. As stated before, I am a Conservative Democrat.

I have lived long enough to have seen that every single social program, with trillions of dollars of funding, over the last 45 years is an absolute and complete failure. Millions have died directly from Liberal ideology. I pray that now since the nation is completely broke and insolvent, we will have to go back to the drawing board and reacess all the failures and the complete devastation it has caused the poor and minorities, beginning with the crisis situation of the African American family breakdown.

Imagine, we've paid trillions of dollars for cradle to grave entitlements and have nothing but astronomical murder rates on our return. Liars and Ideologists have become a cancerous tumor in our political arena. The time is now to restore respect, integrity and morality, the very characteristics that defined the Civil Rights movement. Characteristics are learned by cultural groups, families through generations through thoughts and behaviors. We certainly have failed in that regard,starting in the sixties, once the Father figure was thrown out and replaced by the Government welfare programs, birth control and abortion.

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David Nolta

10:31 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Actually, Theresa, by all accounts, violent crime in this country is actually on the decline. And ideologies don't kill people, violence and ignorance and willful stupidity do. And those "qualities" are bi-partisan. As far as millions dying, are you talking about wars, or abortion, or what, precisely? Because I know that Social Security saved--and continues to save--millions of Americans from poverty and starvation. And I find it very hard to believe that most African Americans would prefer to return to the state of affairs that prevailed 45 years ago. I remember the trucks with soldiers going by my grandparents' house in Detroit in 1967. NOT a happy time for any of us.

Jim Rizoli

5:07 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

I find it hard to believe that people vote for people with no sunstance.
She comes out of nowhere, is a big hypocrite to boot and people love her.
This is why this country is sunk IMO.
She is so far over most people here socially in her life style that it's not even funny, yet some seem to "connect" with here. How so? In your dreams?
Ya right, like I connect with Bill Gates too.
Jim@ccfiile.com

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Dan Quigley

9:54 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

this doesn't even make sense

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David Nolta

7:26 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

And do you connect with Romney--such a sensitive personification of the "common man"?

Live and In Color

5:25 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

I hope no one told her Milford is actually a highly Republican/Independent town, could be quite a beating, unless it's the Patch statewide. Then she'll be the Indian queen that can save us from the evil honky: Scott Brown.

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David Nolta

7:28 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

That really is inappropriate!!! Are you saying that Republicans are thugs? Bullies? And Milford isn't completely Republican--I live here.

Dan Quigley

9:54 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

QUESTION: What specific regulations should be put on Wall Street groups to prevent the crises of the recent past from repeating (Glass-Steagal? Financial Transaction Tax?)

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Mary MacDonald

7:50 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

The way a live chat works: you participate by asking the candidate a question. It is moderated. This is not specific to one Patch, it is across the region. If you want to ask a question, come back during the hours noted in the article, and pose a question.

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Mark Cain

9:54 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

I wonder why Pocahontas Warren ducked a group of Cherokee women who wanted to meet with her? She hid behind closed doors peeking out the windows.

Democrats,

no ethics
no morality
no problem

Democrats will support any ethically-challenged candidate, translation, any liar, so long as Big Government is advanced,

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David Nolta

10:28 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

Mark Cain--you really should start to think about other people as being individuals like yourself--not as easily stereotyped groups, but individuals, with minds just as complicated, and fallible, as your own. As it is, you rant offensively about whole groups of people, about whom, clearly, you know nothing. The more you post, the more obvious that is. Go ahead, tell me that I'm pro-illegal immigration (you've told that lie before), tell me that Democrats are all stupid and evil (you've made that point again and again). Do you REALLY believe you convince anybody with that drivel?? If so--keep up the good work!!

Diane Tiger

9:54 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012

@ UglyHat -Framingham Patch has a policy of using your real name on your account. It is intended to create an environment where neighbors treat each other with respect because you know who you are talking to. It's much easier to be nasty hiding behind an alias. In general that is why you find actual discussions on Patch as opposed to the constant flaming on MWDN.

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UglyHat

8:40 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Hi Diane,
There are plenty of disrespectful comments coming from people using real names. And there is plenty of nastiness and disrespect between actual neighbors in person. Providing two words that you think are my real name does not promote or create respect. One can be respectful with some level of anonymity or equally disrespectful transparently.

Kate Donaghue

8:27 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

My question is about Elizabeth Warren's work at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. What were the biggest challenges you faced? What do you see that has come from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau?

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Concerned Citizen

8:27 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Massachusetts would be foolish not to re-elect Scott Brown in November.
Scott Brown has never voted for a tax increase. Elizabeth Warren wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts and increase Social Security taxes. Scott Brown has voted to repeal Obamacare. Elizabeth Warren supports Obamacare and wants to go to a single-payer system, which will ruin our health care system. Scott Brown supports the Keystone Pipeline, which will be good for our energy needs and create good paying jobs. Elizabeth Warren opposes the Keystone Pipeline. Scott Brown supports SECURE Communities to protect us against criminal illegal immigrants, such as the one who ran over and killed Matthew Denice last August in Milford. Elizabeth Warren opposes the Secure Communities Act.
I think the choice is clear; you decide.

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David Nolta

10:05 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

I like Scott Brown and Elizabeth Warren, though I think Elizabeth Warren is smarter and has a far better record of energetically defending the rights and goals of working class Americans (and yes, you can so fight for the rights of working class citizens even if you have a big fat salary. FDR anyone?) To say that "Scott Brown never voted for a tax increase" is completely inaccurate--he voted for "Romneycare"--the model for "Obamacare" which included those personal "incentives" (taxes") for people to get health coverage. ("http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/10/politics/massachusetts-senate/index.html";) As for the Keystone Pipeline--is it necessary to destroy the earth in order to create jobs?? We could and should create jobs in alternative energy sources (as, for example, Germany continues to do). It seems to me very likely that Secure Communities will, as Elizabeth Warren says, need to be improved, though it is already being implemented here. Time will tell, but many popular politicians agree that the law is problematic to say the least (which is not to say that those who oppose it are PRO-illegal--only that the law as it stands is PROBLEMATIC).
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/13/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-is-latest-to-reject-secure-communities-immigration-law.html

Proud Resident of Northborough

8:27 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

I find it interesting that even Professor Warrens supporters refuse to address the Native American issue. And to be clear, the issue is NOT whether or not she is part NA. The issue is did she falsely take advantage of the system by claiming she was entitled to special consideration. We _know_ she made the claim, what we still don't know is if she was entitled to do so. And her consistent lack of candor regarding the subject is not helping her cause

Im still waiting for someone to explain how she reconciles her outrageous salary and benefits at Harvard with her claim that she believes higher education should be more affordable.

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Chris L.

8:35 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

OK, Dems....let's go back to your war hero, John Kerry. Why did he catch an ethical smackdown when he attempted to run??

He lied about his military record(he embellished what he did). So how is this different? Lizzie is embellishing who she is. If anything, she is sending a poor message to the young women of MA and America. "It's not enough to be an intelligent and successful woman, you have to lie about who you are, and to have an extra twist to being a woman."

She brought this upon herself. She should have left her "ethnicity" out of her rise to prominence at Harvard. She herself didn't allow people to judge her on her own merits.....she wanted to be known as a native american woman.

If we can't trust her about who she is, how can we trust her on ANY issue? This is absolutely an important cornerstone of her campaign.

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David Nolta

9:40 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

NOKAY, Chris L. Your comparison of this situation to the smearing of a very real War Hero, John Kerry--repeatedly decorated, praised in Congress upon his return from active duty (remember?), and smeared by a cabal of politicians supporting a dishonest and cowardly regime--makes an excellent point--though I don't think it's the point you want to make. But I agree with you, Elizabeth Warren IS being smeared, and that should probably stop. And what on earth do you mean when you say, "She should have left her "ethnicity" out of her rise to prominence at Harvard"? You still haven't shown how she used her "ethnicity", how she "left it in", and how she was dishonest in doing so, and how that benefitted her. That you don't like Elizabeth Warren is one thing we all understand. But your attacks are no more than that: unsupported, vitriolic, and empty.

Babe

9:31 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

My biggest concern is her backing. Is Geroge Soros or anyone from Hollywood contributing to her campaign? She seem to have a lot more money that Scott Brown.
She being in Congress will just hasten us down the road to a Socialist, Marxist governmen as Obummer is doing now.

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David Nolta

10:08 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

The Texans who contribute large sums to Scott Brown's campaign certainly will protect us from the Red Scare! Unless we are scared of red necks... And please, "Babe"--name calling??? That's pretty juvenile.

Proud Resident of Northborough

10:10 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

David, you continue to evade my questions (very similar to the Professor!).

The issue is did she falsely take advantage of the system by claiming she was entitled to special consideration. We _know_ she made the claim, what we still don't know is if she was entitled to do so. And her consistent lack of candor regarding the subject is not helping her cause

Im still waiting for someone to explain how she reconciles her outrageous salary and benefits at Harvard with her claim that she believes higher education should be more affordable.

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David Nolta

10:52 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Proud Resident--Whaaa? Those aren't questions I can answer. Nor are they questions for me rather than for yourself. Though I like Scott Brown well enough, I support Elizabeth Warren in this race because, as I said, I have heard her speak and I find that she has a great record of exposing the questionable practices of financial institutions in their dealings with working people like myself, and a great record of protecting the rights of citizens against lending and credit card companies. She seems very smart and capable. If she deliberately lied about her heritage, that would count against her--but nobody has proved that--few of her detractors, even here, seem to insist that she deliberately lied and used the lie to her own tangible benefit. So really, the ball is in your court, not mine.

Chris L.

10:10 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

@Davis Nolta.

Nokay, (haha), John Kerry embellished his record. I do not deny he served, nor do I deny he served honorably. It has been established that he took a little bit of creative license about where he served and what he did. He did not have the evidence to back his claims. So how is that being smeared? If I tell you that I am the crown prince of Zamunda, that doesn't necessarily make it so.

Or, in a more realistic scenario, I served 12 years in the US Navy. If I told you I was an Admiral in charge of an aircraft carrier group during that time, would you believe me, simply because I was in the Navy, I can "speak the lingo", and I said I was an Admiral? Or would you demand proof?

If you cannot be honest about something as simple as WHO YOU ARE, how can you expect anyone to trust you?

While I do dislike her...it is for this exact reason. I won't hide it. I think anyone who is overlooking this blatant deception she is pulling is naive.

What's her agenda? Seriously? What's in this for her? If she could be dishonest about who she is, to the point that she's plagiarizing recipes and landing cushy Harvard professorships, where does it stop? She's already collecting millions from her white guilt-infused followers. She refuses to sit down with "her people". Why won't she meet with the Cherokee? I bet if a group of white guys wanted to have a sit down with Scott Brown and he ducked it, you'd have some not so nice things to say about him....

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Larry

11:10 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

I have a question. Will she be given the same access as Scott Brown to daily secret meetings with Kings, Queens, Prime Ministers and Heads of State?

Those daily secret meeting must be critical to running the government, and I suspect that only most trustworthy people are getting the invitations. They must be important, since Senator Brown has mentioned his attendance at them on so many occasions.

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Chris L.

12:13 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

To further drive home your question, Larry:

Will Lizzie represent herself as a member of Cherokee Nation to gain an audience with such dignitaries? Or will she drop the charade once(if) she wins her seat?

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David Nolta

1:48 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Thanks Larry. I love it when we strive for a little balance!

David Nolta

10:38 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Chris--you don't agree that calling John Kerry, a decorated war hero, "Hanoi John" in the House of Representatives, was part of a smear? And that was the tip of the iceberg. And Kerry had neither the need nor the incentive to embellish anything. (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Kerry/Attacks_on_Vietnam_service) None of which has much to do with Elizabeth Warren. With regard to her, whom I admire from her work to protect consumers against lending and credit card corporations, I would agree with you that if she deliberately lied, that would be a serious problem for her. But as I've already said, I haven't seen any proof that she deliberately lied. And in the end, I'm afraid that her "heritage" is less important to me--I don't at all agree that who your ancestors are IS who you are. And I like Scott Brown--but I don't think he is as smart as Elizabeth Warren, and I don't think he cares as much as Warren when it comes to protecting the shrinking, working, middle classes of Americans.

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David Nolta

10:40 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

And if you tell me that you are the crown Prince of Zamunda, I will at least grant you the courtesy of believing that you might well believe you are...

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Chris L.

12:13 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

So you will indulge delusions?

I see. That explains so much.

I also suppose you believe that the 43 yr old career car thief in Worcester was a victim of police brutality the other night as well....

I believe we'll just have to agree to disagree on Warren. We are obviously approaching this from 2 non-intersecting trains of thought.

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Dan Quigley

12:13 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

DAVID NOLTA: I just wanted to say that I appreciate your politeness and avoidance of ad hominim and stereotyping attacks. People are far to comfortable being decidedly ignorant online.

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David Nolta

1:38 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Thank you, Dan. And to Chris, if you were to say you were the crown prince of Zamunda, and you were the crown prince of Zamunda, my believing you were the crown prince of Zamunda, and my believing that you believe it, would be no delusions. If you were to say you were the crown prince of Zamunda, and you were not the crown prince of Zamunda, the greater delusion would be yours, though if I believed that you believed it, my allowance that you might believe it would be a kindness which would, I believe, outweigh any delusion.

Proud Resident of Northborough

12:13 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

David, the ball is neither of our courts! It is in Professor Warren's court. And she continues to evade the question. If she had a good answer, don't you believe she would have presented it? She knows that she cannot justify her actions and is hoping that that it will go away.

Her hypocrisy regarding the cost of higher education (and its direct relationship to her salary) is also an albatross she has to carry. As this campaign season continues to unfold, so will the wrappings of Professor Warren.

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David Nolta

1:54 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Why this constant indignation that a brilliant academic, working for one of the most respectable institutions in the world, which happens also to be one of the richest private corporations in the world, should make a huge salary? Mitt makes a huge salary, and claims to speak for the working people he fires regularly in large numbers. I just don't see that Warren's salary, however large compared to my own, makes her less worthy than anybody else's high salary. Or is the point the old one, that teachers don't really do anything worth paying for???

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Proud Resident of Northborough

9:52 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012

David, stop avoiding the question, your not helping your candidate. The issue is Professor Warren's hypocrisy. She complains about the cost of higher education institutions, while she is pulling down huge sums as an employee of those very institutions. She is part of the problem. How do you reconcile that?
You justify Warren's salary by saying Harvard is one of the "richest private corporations in the world". What you neglect to mention is that their coffers are supplemented by the tuition's taken from the students Warren pretends to defend.

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David Nolta

10:21 pm on Saturday, July 14, 2012

ProudResident, stop telling people what to do. I've addressed the question from my own point of view, and if you took the time to read, you would not be asking me to repeat it here. I've seen no proof of deliberate hypocrisy, much less deliberate dishonesty, on the part of Elizabeth Warren. Saying that she is overpaid is completely subjective--I don't defend her high salary, as I don't defend Scott Brown's high salary as a practicing lawyer--but then, I don't hold it against her, either--nor his against Scott Brown. Are you suggesting that Warren should not accept the high salary from Harvard, which is well able to pay it? Should Scott Brown do his legal work pro bono? Is she exploiting students, or are they getting what they pay for (is Scott Brown's income from real estate law an exploitation of the people whose real estate his firm handles)? As far as being "my" candidate, again--I like both Scott Brown and Elizabeth Warren, but I like her better as a candidate because of her better record of informing and protecting the public when it comes to issues involving the exploitation and misinformation of the middle class by major financial institutions. I don't give a pig's petutie how much either candidate makes, and I think that no academic should be embarrassed to make a high (the term is subjective) salary from Harvard and at the same time advocate for lower tuition (that idea is really silly--like saying wealthier people are hypocrites if they speak up for the poor).

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Proud Resident of Northborough

9:42 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

David, I give you some credit for being forthright! You said, "I think that no academic should be embarrassed to make a high (the term is subjective) salary from Harvard and at the same time advocate for lower tuition". This is where we disagree. I think it is the pinnacle of hypocrisy for Warren to lament concerning the cost of higher education, while she is pulling down a $340K salary from Harvard. Where does she think that money comes from? Tuition perhaps?

John J Brown III

12:13 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

@David, I find it funny that you don't question her integrity knowing that she stated she is Native American, while also knowing she refused to meet with members of the Cherokee tribe that came to Massachusetts to question her on her claims of ancestry. These are questions I want to know the answers to. She was already in one marginalized group being a female, so that was already to her advantage, to add the Native American only gave her a virtual slam dunk to getting a job, qualified or not.

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Chris L.

12:48 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Thank you. Finally someone that understands the underlying integrity issue here. If she can't even be trusted to tell us who she is, how can she be trusted to stand up for the citizens of MA?

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David Nolta

1:47 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

John J. Brown III, Well, to begin with, Sir, you take a liberty! I question everybody's integrity, all the time, especially that of politicians, though I rarely find simple answers, or consistent behavior--in myself or in others--over time. How does being female place her in a "marginalized" group? Historically under the control of males, perhaps, but it is the grossest and most self-contradictory logic to insist that being female gives her or any woman an advantage in anything but childbearing. You should certainly pursue your questions about her race and her handling of the question (she has answered it many times, saying that she was brought up to believe that she had Native American ancestry, and it is up to each of us to assess her credibility); in fact, the opportunity to ask her questions is the very subject of this article!

Mark Cain

11:24 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Hmmm, if the vote is anything like the Patriotic voices being spoken here Brown will be re elected. I don't think Lizzie will get a job as a lawyer for any of the new casinos.

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run75441

1:10 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Hmmm Mark:

"Never give children a chance of imagining that anything exists in isolation. Make it plain from the very beginning that all living is relationship. Show them relationships in the woods, in the fields, in the ponds and streams, in the village and in the country around it. Rub it in." Island by Adolphus Huxley

Instead of slugging down the Fox News Kool-Aide, why not read the entire statement?

"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

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